The narrative of development is wide ranging. Meshed into its arc is the belief that it cannot exist without justice. In this episode, Lebo Madiba is in conversation with Fumani Mthembi who paints a picture of how home grown values led to her being a change agent and champion of developing communities. Fumani is an entrepreneur and co-founder of Pele Energy group; an independent power producer that develops, owns, procures, constructs and operates renewable energy power projects. Pele Energy has Knowledge Pele as its subsidiary which is concerned with global development through the ability to enable structural change.